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22-07-2013, 09:52 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
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22-07-2013, 09:55 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
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22-07-2013, 09:57 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
(21-07-2013 05:55 PM)theword Wrote:  There is no proof to evolution. It is merely an excuse to camouflage your ungodliness. Why cant you people accept that and move forward?
Mutation (a shift in genetic sequence) + reproduction= evolution,like duh! Um what do people think different breeds of cats and dogs ARE! They have non-harmful mutations that humans found visually appealing or useful to us in daily labor and we BRED them for those mutated genes!
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22-07-2013, 11:14 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
Hey N-word, that's a pretty fun little game you've got there. IF you know anything about evolution, you know it cannot be proven in one internet post. You know it takes pages of scientific literature, documents, DNA readings, comparisons of fossils, geology, and so on. You also know the average person does not have all of this information in their head so all they (we) can do is provide sources for you to study. But you don't want sources. You want us to show you proof. Again, something difficult to do in one internet post. Where did you learn this tactic? Standtoreason.org? CARM.org? Answersingenesis.org? Wherever you came up with it, it is a fun tactic to use, but really it is of no value to a conversation about lengthy, scientific topics. But this way of thinking, though fallacious, is the way you're used to thinking.
Example:
Question: How do you know there is a God?
Answer: For the Bible tells me so.
Question: How do you know the Bible is true?
Answer: God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
Should you be faulted for doing so? Well, you are a product of your narrow minded upbringing, but shame on you for not expanding your thinking.

But, with all that in mind, you've asked for proof and I'm not going to shy away from giving it to you. Nor shall I give you a link that you will not click or a book recommendation that you will not read, nor a video that you will not watch.

Ready?
Begin:

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations. When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

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22-07-2013, 11:37 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
(22-07-2013 11:14 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

It's quite a fun game, actually. The "where do you diverge from reality" game.

Of the points you mentioned, 1, 3, and 5 were not available as data for the likes of Darwin and Wallace. 2 and 4 were fragmentary. And that was still more than enough evidence!

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22-07-2013, 11:41 AM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
(22-07-2013 11:14 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  Hey N-word, that's a pretty fun little game you've got there. IF you know anything about evolution, you know it cannot be proven in one internet post. You know it takes pages of scientific literature, documents, DNA readings, comparisons of fossils, geology, and so on. You also know the average person does not have all of this information in their head so all they (we) can do is provide sources for you to study. But you don't want sources. You want us to show you proof. Again, something difficult to do in one internet post. Where did you learn this tactic? Standtoreason.org? CARM.org? Answersingenesis.org? Wherever you came up with it, it is a fun tactic to use, but really it is of no value to a conversation about lengthy, scientific topics. But this way of thinking, though fallacious, is the way you're used to thinking.
Example:
Question: How do you know there is a God?
Answer: For the Bible tells me so.
Question: How do you know the Bible is true?
Answer: God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
Should you be faulted for doing so? Well, you are a product of your narrow minded upbringing, but shame on you for not expanding your thinking.

But, with all that in mind, you've asked for proof and I'm not going to shy away from giving it to you. Nor shall I give you a link that you will not click or a book recommendation that you will not read, nor a video that you will not watch.

Ready?
Begin:

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations. When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

6. Biogeography. The distribution of plant and animal species around the globe, especially the contrast between continents, continental islands, and oceanic islands. This was a major part of Darwin's evidence.

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22-07-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
(22-07-2013 11:14 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  Hey N-word, that's a pretty fun little game you've got there. IF you know anything about evolution, you know it cannot be proven in one internet post. You know it takes pages of scientific literature, documents, DNA readings, comparisons of fossils, geology, and so on. You also know the average person does not have all of this information in their head so all they (we) can do is provide sources for you to study. But you don't want sources. You want us to show you proof. Again, something difficult to do in one internet post. Where did you learn this tactic? Standtoreason.org? CARM.org? Answersingenesis.org? Wherever you came up with it, it is a fun tactic to use, but really it is of no value to a conversation about lengthy, scientific topics. But this way of thinking, though fallacious, is the way you're used to thinking.
Example:
Question: How do you know there is a God?
Answer: For the Bible tells me so.
Question: How do you know the Bible is true?
Answer: God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
Should you be faulted for doing so? Well, you are a product of your narrow minded upbringing, but shame on you for not expanding your thinking.

But, with all that in mind, you've asked for proof and I'm not going to shy away from giving it to you. Nor shall I give you a link that you will not click or a book recommendation that you will not read, nor a video that you will not watch.

Ready?
Begin:

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations. When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

(22-07-2013 11:41 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-07-2013 11:14 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  Hey N-word, that's a pretty fun little game you've got there. IF you know anything about evolution, you know it cannot be proven in one internet post. You know it takes pages of scientific literature, documents, DNA readings, comparisons of fossils, geology, and so on. You also know the average person does not have all of this information in their head so all they (we) can do is provide sources for you to study. But you don't want sources. You want us to show you proof. Again, something difficult to do in one internet post. Where did you learn this tactic? Standtoreason.org? CARM.org? Answersingenesis.org? Wherever you came up with it, it is a fun tactic to use, but really it is of no value to a conversation about lengthy, scientific topics. But this way of thinking, though fallacious, is the way you're used to thinking.
Example:
Question: How do you know there is a God?
Answer: For the Bible tells me so.
Question: How do you know the Bible is true?
Answer: God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
Should you be faulted for doing so? Well, you are a product of your narrow minded upbringing, but shame on you for not expanding your thinking.

But, with all that in mind, you've asked for proof and I'm not going to shy away from giving it to you. Nor shall I give you a link that you will not click or a book recommendation that you will not read, nor a video that you will not watch.

Ready?
Begin:

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations. When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

6. Biogeography. The distribution of plant and animal species around the globe, especially the contrast between continents, continental islands, and oceanic islands. This was a major part of Darwin's evidence.


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22-07-2013, 12:01 PM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
(22-07-2013 11:41 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-07-2013 11:14 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  Hey N-word, that's a pretty fun little game you've got there. IF you know anything about evolution, you know it cannot be proven in one internet post. You know it takes pages of scientific literature, documents, DNA readings, comparisons of fossils, geology, and so on. You also know the average person does not have all of this information in their head so all they (we) can do is provide sources for you to study. But you don't want sources. You want us to show you proof. Again, something difficult to do in one internet post. Where did you learn this tactic? Standtoreason.org? CARM.org? Answersingenesis.org? Wherever you came up with it, it is a fun tactic to use, but really it is of no value to a conversation about lengthy, scientific topics. But this way of thinking, though fallacious, is the way you're used to thinking.
Example:
Question: How do you know there is a God?
Answer: For the Bible tells me so.
Question: How do you know the Bible is true?
Answer: God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
Should you be faulted for doing so? Well, you are a product of your narrow minded upbringing, but shame on you for not expanding your thinking.

But, with all that in mind, you've asked for proof and I'm not going to shy away from giving it to you. Nor shall I give you a link that you will not click or a book recommendation that you will not read, nor a video that you will not watch.

Ready?
Begin:

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations. When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
{Links, books, videos available upon request.}

I look forward to your entertaining non-rebuttal. Big Grin

6. Biogeography. The distribution of plant and animal species around the globe, especially the contrast between continents, continental islands, and oceanic islands. This was a major part of Darwin's evidence.

You three and all your fancy book learning! Theword has something much better to go on. We all know the bible is error free and wasn't written by man.Drinking Beverage

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22-07-2013, 02:08 PM
RE: [split] theword: says there is no proof of evolution
What I find absolutely sad in this thread is that you are happy in exhibiting your ignorance, DahWerd.

Whatever your reasons for posting this thread, I don't think I'm getting dumber by it - au contraire - I'm learning more from posts of random users who have a heckuva lot of knowledge, and in turn I am intellectually satisfied with the replies given to you.

It's a shame that you decide to remain ignorant and confident in your claims, as it's damaging to yourself. Critical thinking is something that if not used - and used properly - can have devastating consequences, not just in the realm of science, but day-to-day living. By continually going down this path, you're training your mind always resort to uncritical thinking, therefore worsening your chances of ever being able to so properly later on in your life when websites like this are no longer a priority for you.

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22-07-2013, 02:20 PM
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(22-07-2013 11:41 AM)Chas Wrote:  6. Biogeography. The distribution of plant and animal species around the globe, especially the contrast between continents, continental islands, and oceanic islands. This was a major part of Darwin's evidence.

You three and all your fancy book learning! Theword has something much better to go on. We all know the bible is error free and wasn't written by man.Drinking Beverage

I think the word is actually Kirk Cameron trolling out forum. Or perhaps the banana-man himself Ray Comfort??

Although I'll admit there are many others that hold such ill-formed ideas.


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