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29-02-2016, 09:58 PM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(29-02-2016 07:33 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 06:46 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  The 16 yr old girl sent him letters of a sexual nature. She told police that the two of them had consensual sex. The police found the letters in his possession, which were materials of a sexual nature invloving a child, because said child wrote them.

If the evidence of sexual assault is her word saying they had sex, I'm going to need more evidence than that.

Try this scenario
-Girl sends letters to the guy.
-Guy reads them, not knowing who they are from.
-Girl contacts guy and asks for money or she will go to police and say that the two of you had consensual sex.
-Guy doesn't give in to demands of money.
-Guy is arrested.

How about not victim blaming until there is evidence of a false accusation... of which there is not.

"CENTERTON, Ark.--

A Centerton teacher is behind bars after Benton County Sheriff's Department arrested him for sexual assault on Saturday, Feb. 27.

Richard Riley, 34, is a teacher and coach at Lifeway Christian School in Centerton, according to the Benton County Sheriff's Department.

On Saturday, Feb. 27, Detective David Undiano of the Benton County Sheriff's Office-Cyber Crimes Division was contacted regarding suspicious circumstances surrounding messages between a 16-year-old female and a teacher. Deputy Jared Morgan was dispatched to meet with the father of the victim. The father stated to have seen sexually explicit messages and nude images from Riley's Facebook messenger to his daughter on an iPad device, according to the affidavit. Some of the images were of a male who was recognized as Riley.

Riley was approached by Undiano and on Saturday, Feb. 27 at his residence in Centerton and was questioned about the investigation. According to Undiano, Riley did not admit to an inappropriate relationship with a student but did not deny it either at that time." cont on link


http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/centerto...al-assault

The initial link didn't have this info. Now that more evidence is provided, the more we know. We now have the father saying he saw nude images and sexually explicit messages on his daughters ipad.

We also have Mr Riley admitting to having sexual intercourse with the victim on multiple occasions at his apartment. He also admitted to receiving nude pictures of the victim on his phone as well as the girl admitting that she sent them.

Add in the fact that Mrs Riley stated that the reason that her and her husband are separated is directly due to the relationship he was having with this girl.

More info and the picture becomes clearer.
When we believe things without evidence, what do we call that ?

The initial link only contained a base claim made by the girl and not much else.

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01-03-2016, 01:22 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(29-02-2016 09:58 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 07:33 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  How about not victim blaming until there is evidence of a false accusation... of which there is not.

"CENTERTON, Ark.--

A Centerton teacher is behind bars after Benton County Sheriff's Department arrested him for sexual assault on Saturday, Feb. 27.

Richard Riley, 34, is a teacher and coach at Lifeway Christian School in Centerton, according to the Benton County Sheriff's Department.

On Saturday, Feb. 27, Detective David Undiano of the Benton County Sheriff's Office-Cyber Crimes Division was contacted regarding suspicious circumstances surrounding messages between a 16-year-old female and a teacher. Deputy Jared Morgan was dispatched to meet with the father of the victim. The father stated to have seen sexually explicit messages and nude images from Riley's Facebook messenger to his daughter on an iPad device, according to the affidavit. Some of the images were of a male who was recognized as Riley.

Riley was approached by Undiano and on Saturday, Feb. 27 at his residence in Centerton and was questioned about the investigation. According to Undiano, Riley did not admit to an inappropriate relationship with a student but did not deny it either at that time." cont on link


http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/centerto...al-assault

The initial link didn't have this info. Now that more evidence is provided, the more we know. We now have the father saying he saw nude images and sexually explicit messages on his daughters ipad.

We also have Mr Riley admitting to having sexual intercourse with the victim on multiple occasions at his apartment. He also admitted to receiving nude pictures of the victim on his phone as well as the girl admitting that she sent them.

Add in the fact that Mrs Riley stated that the reason that her and her husband are separated is directly due to the relationship he was having with this girl.

More info and the picture becomes clearer.
When we believe things without evidence, what do we call that ?

The initial link only contained a base claim made by the girl and not much else.

Sorry about that. It was the latest I could find at the time.
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01-03-2016, 02:27 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(29-02-2016 09:58 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 07:33 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  How about not victim blaming until there is evidence of a false accusation... of which there is not.

"CENTERTON, Ark.--

A Centerton teacher is behind bars after Benton County Sheriff's Department arrested him for sexual assault on Saturday, Feb. 27.

Richard Riley, 34, is a teacher and coach at Lifeway Christian School in Centerton, according to the Benton County Sheriff's Department.

On Saturday, Feb. 27, Detective David Undiano of the Benton County Sheriff's Office-Cyber Crimes Division was contacted regarding suspicious circumstances surrounding messages between a 16-year-old female and a teacher. Deputy Jared Morgan was dispatched to meet with the father of the victim. The father stated to have seen sexually explicit messages and nude images from Riley's Facebook messenger to his daughter on an iPad device, according to the affidavit. Some of the images were of a male who was recognized as Riley.

Riley was approached by Undiano and on Saturday, Feb. 27 at his residence in Centerton and was questioned about the investigation. According to Undiano, Riley did not admit to an inappropriate relationship with a student but did not deny it either at that time." cont on link


http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/centerto...al-assault

The initial link didn't have this info. Now that more evidence is provided, the more we know. We now have the father saying he saw nude images and sexually explicit messages on his daughters ipad.

We also have Mr Riley admitting to having sexual intercourse with the victim on multiple occasions at his apartment. He also admitted to receiving nude pictures of the victim on his phone as well as the girl admitting that she sent them.

Add in the fact that Mrs Riley stated that the reason that her and her husband are separated is directly due to the relationship he was having with this girl.

More info and the picture becomes clearer.
When we believe things without evidence, what do we call that ?

The initial link only contained a base claim made by the girl and not much else.

No, it didn't have this info but the evidence we did have, which was the article that the police had charged him, not just questioned him, but somehow you jumped to a conclusion that the police who did know more than we did were wrong and that she was possibly or probably blackmailing him or at least fraudulently accusing him when you had not one tiny bit of evidence to go on. A totally fabricated accusation and victim blaming fantasy on your part.

No backpedaling, now.

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01-03-2016, 02:30 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 01:22 AM)purpledaisies Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 09:58 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  The initial link didn't have this info. Now that more evidence is provided, the more we know. We now have the father saying he saw nude images and sexually explicit messages on his daughters ipad.

We also have Mr Riley admitting to having sexual intercourse with the victim on multiple occasions at his apartment. He also admitted to receiving nude pictures of the victim on his phone as well as the girl admitting that she sent them.

Add in the fact that Mrs Riley stated that the reason that her and her husband are separated is directly due to the relationship he was having with this girl.

More info and the picture becomes clearer.
When we believe things without evidence, what do we call that ?

The initial link only contained a base claim made by the girl and not much else.

Sorry about that. It was the latest I could find at the time.

There was nothing wrong with your post. It was fine. Smile

There is something wrong with making up false scenarios out of your ass like Rahn127 did.

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01-03-2016, 08:48 AM (This post was last modified: 01-03-2016 08:53 AM by epronovost.)
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 02:30 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 01:22 AM)purpledaisies Wrote:  Sorry about that. It was the latest I could find at the time.

There was nothing wrong with your post. It was fine. Smile

There is something wrong with making up false scenarios out of your ass like Rahn127 did.

While this behavior isn't intentionnaly armful (Rahn127 comment), its one of the main reason why people still prefer to keep their mouth shut about sexual agressions and abuse. False accusation of sex crimes are very rare, about as rare as false accusation of any other crime. On the other end, lynching the suspect in the media isn't brilliant either. There isn't enough reserve in comments surrounding those types of cases or justice in general in my opinion.

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01-03-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 08:48 AM)epronovost Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 02:30 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  There was nothing wrong with your post. It was fine. Smile

There is something wrong with making up false scenarios out of your ass like Rahn127 did.

While this behavior isn't intentionnaly armful (Rahn127 comment), its one of the main reason why people still prefer to keep their mouth shut about sexual agressions and abuse. False accusation of sex crimes are very rare, about as rare as false accusation of any other crime. On the other end, lynching the suspect in the media isn't brilliant either. There isn't enough reserve in comments surrounding those types of cases or justice in general in my opinion.

I disagree that comments like these are not intentionally harmful. I think some victim blaming may not be, it might be just spewing off the top of your heard but I think the majority of them are. When the imaginary scenarios and conclusions come out before any reason, questions or investigations of the facts, what other purpose is there than to smear and defame the victim?

But you are correct in that this is one of the biggest reasons for victims of abuse/assault to stay quite. It saddens me that our society refuse it's victims a safe place to get help.

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01-03-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(29-02-2016 06:20 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 05:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  Marylou who?

Mary Kay Letourneau

sorry, my bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau

I can't believe there are Wikipedia entries for perps of statutory rape.

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01-03-2016, 11:48 AM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 11:18 AM)mgoering Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 06:20 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  Mary Kay Letourneau

sorry, my bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau

I can't believe there are Wikipedia entries for perps of statutory rape.

There is Wikipedia entry for child rapist, killers, genocidal maniacs and more. I think there is even one for Kent Hovind (a fraudster and an idiot).

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01-03-2016, 02:24 PM
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 02:27 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  
(29-02-2016 09:58 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  The initial link didn't have this info. Now that more evidence is provided, the more we know. We now have the father saying he saw nude images and sexually explicit messages on his daughters ipad.

We also have Mr Riley admitting to having sexual intercourse with the victim on multiple occasions at his apartment. He also admitted to receiving nude pictures of the victim on his phone as well as the girl admitting that she sent them.

Add in the fact that Mrs Riley stated that the reason that her and her husband are separated is directly due to the relationship he was having with this girl.

More info and the picture becomes clearer.
When we believe things without evidence, what do we call that ?

The initial link only contained a base claim made by the girl and not much else.

No, it didn't have this info but the evidence we did have, which was the article that the police had charged him, not just questioned him, but somehow you jumped to a conclusion that the police who did know more than we did were wrong and that she was possibly or probably blackmailing him or at least fraudulently accusing him when you had not one tiny bit of evidence to go on. A totally fabricated accusation and victim blaming fantasy on your part.

No backpedaling, now.

I don't think his post drew any conclusion, only presented another possibility which was plausible given the available information at the time. If you don't think that his scenario ever has happened before....... And I would hardly call it victim blaming if she was a willing participant which the article clearly said she was.

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01-03-2016, 02:43 PM (This post was last modified: 01-03-2016 02:51 PM by epronovost.)
RE: teacher arressted for statutory rape
(01-03-2016 02:24 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 02:27 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  No, it didn't have this info but the evidence we did have, which was the article that the police had charged him, not just questioned him, but somehow you jumped to a conclusion that the police who did know more than we did were wrong and that she was possibly or probably blackmailing him or at least fraudulently accusing him when you had not one tiny bit of evidence to go on. A totally fabricated accusation and victim blaming fantasy on your part.

No backpedaling, now.

I don't think his post drew any conclusion, only presented another possibility which was plausible given the available information at the time. If you don't think that his scenario ever has happened before....... And I would hardly call it victim blaming if she was a willing participant which the article clearly said she was.

The comparison clearly stated, without any sort of proof or hint, that the girl was maliciously blackmailing her teacher which is a crime and a serious accusation. You can doubt of the guilt of the man, but this is acusing a potential victim of being a criminal and not just wrong or mistaken. You could have suggested that the parents pressured their child to complain after the teacher made some gesture that could be interpreted as innapropriate in a certain setting or dozen of other scenarios that involves the teacher being innocent of statutory rape and that don't necessarly involves a criminal con from a teenager. To me choosing this specific hypothesis over all the other ones shows the clear intent of the person to transform the potential victim into a potential criminal despite the fact that other scenarios innocenting the teacher are more plausible purely for statistical reason (AKA without any knowledge of the case). This is a form victim blamming or more precisely a form of victim denying. That's why instead of throwing wild accusation at people who claim to have been victim of a grave crime one should, one should study a bit the case and measure your word because they have weigth even on internet forums.

On another note, any 30 years old adult in position of power, with authority and trust can bed a 16 years old girl with minimum effort. That's why its called statutory rape. The victim is manipulated by an adult with more knowledge, power and authority to have sex . It is disgusting to even consider this as concentment. It's litteraly the same thing than a fraud except its not money or goods that's stolen but sexual services.

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