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07-04-2012, 01:47 AM
RE: that darn Muslim II
(07-04-2012 01:05 AM)Quidsane Wrote:  Doesn't sound peer-reviewed to me. Big Grin
A thousand good Muslim scientists have peered into it and their review was good, what more do you want?
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07-04-2012, 01:51 AM
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I hear this stuff everytime I go to lecture in Malaysia / Indonesia, sometimes from delegates but sometimes from taxi drivers etc.. I used to get in to debates about Galen etc.

Bored with that now so I usually reply: "I know, the Quran has wonderous insight. But why is it always retrospective? Which of your scientists are working on new scientific theories based on Quranic revelations? Can you email their whitepapers to me, please?"

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07-04-2012, 05:09 AM
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(06-04-2012 05:46 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(06-04-2012 05:32 PM)Chas Wrote:  I've heard this silly one before. Probably more people were familiar with the stages of growth of animals in the womb then than now - THEY WERE SHEPHERDS and HERDERS. Sheeesh - there's nothing here that they wouldn't have known in the course of caring for and slaughtering animals.

No miraculous knowledge here, folks. Move along.

Not sure about that, Chas, still seems pretty miraculous to me. Wink
Embryology is so complex and amazing as to seem miraculous, but the fact that people living close to their animals knew about the stages of growth is not miraculous.

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07-04-2012, 05:54 PM (This post was last modified: 07-04-2012 07:38 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: that darn Muslim II
(07-04-2012 05:09 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(06-04-2012 05:46 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Not sure about that, Chas, still seems pretty miraculous to me. Wink
Embryology is so complex and amazing as to seem miraculous, but the fact that people living close to their animals knew about the stages of growth is not miraculous.

But I contend that the fact they could understand, or even misunderstand, it at all is, brother. Wink

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07-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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(07-04-2012 05:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(07-04-2012 05:09 AM)Chas Wrote:  Embryology is so complex and amazing as to seem miraculous, but the fact that people living close to their animals knew about the stages of growth is not miraculous.

But I contend that the fact they could understand it at all is, brother. Wink
That would be, but they observed and misunderstood it. No miracle and no surprise.

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07-04-2012, 07:39 PM
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(07-04-2012 07:32 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-04-2012 05:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  But I contend that the fact they could understand it at all is, brother. Wink
That would be, but they observed and misunderstood it. No miracle and no surprise.

You're right. Fixed my post. Thanks! Wink

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08-04-2012, 08:02 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, they also understood the concept of cesarean birthing.

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