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22-04-2013, 03:03 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 02:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  So modern man evovled from one single place? Interesting.


It would be enormously improbable for the same species to arise multiple times, virtually impossible.
Yes that makes sense. http://phys.org/news97857326.html
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22-04-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 02:59 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 02:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  So modern man evovled from one single place? Interesting.

You never heard of Mitochondrial Eve ?
Are you like 85 Childish ?
Is it your second childhood ? Tongue

I don't care for that term "mitochondrial eve". I've had people try to tell me it proves creation. (sighs)


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22-04-2013, 03:06 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:02 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 03:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  It would be enormously improbable for the same species to arise multiple times, virtually impossible.

Do you mean in completely different llocations?

Yes, in genetically isolated sub-populations of a species.

Homo sapiens didn't pop up in Africa and in Asia, for instance. That idea is ludicrous.

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22-04-2013, 03:10 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:06 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 03:02 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Do you mean in completely different llocations?

Yes, in genetically isolated sub-populations of a species.

Homo sapiens didn't pop up in Africa and in Asia, for instance. That idea is ludicrous.

Smile Yea kinda figured you meant that. It would be unlikely.


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22-04-2013, 03:30 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 02:59 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  So then you do or do not accept it as true that humans evolved over time from other species through natural selection?
After some searching on the internet, I found some interesting studies that show the differences in human and chimps are mainly certain switches that turn some genes on and off. How these switches occured is therefore of primary interest when addressing your question. Certainly natural selection could be viable as a hypothesis. But essentially if we flipped the right switches we could turn into chimps. I am more of an intellligent design person. It seems unlikely that these switches happen randomly and even more unlikely that such switches and complex code sequencing evolved for the sake of evolving. It looks more like a well designed system to create whatever one wanted to create similar to how we write computer software with 0's and 1's.
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22-04-2013, 03:32 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:30 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 02:59 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  So then you do or do not accept it as true that humans evolved over time from other species through natural selection?
After some searching on the internet, I found some interesting studies that show the differences in human and chimps are mainly certain switches that turn some genes on and off. How these switches occured is therefore of primary interest when addressing your question. Certainly natural selection could be viable as a hypothesis. But essentially if we flipped the right switches we could turn into chimps. I am more of an intellligent design person. It seems unlikely that these switches happen randomly and even more unlikely that such switches and complex code sequencing evolved for the sake of evolving. It looks more like a well designed system to create whatever one wanted to create similar to how we write computer software with 0's and 1's.

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E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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22-04-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:30 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 02:59 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  So then you do or do not accept it as true that humans evolved over time from other species through natural selection?
After some searching on the internet, I found some interesting studies that show the differences in human and chimps are mainly certain switches that turn some genes on and off. How these switches occured is therefore of primary interest when addressing your question. Certainly natural selection could be viable as a hypothesis. But essentially if we flipped the right switches we could turn into chimps. I am more of an intellligent design person. It seems unlikely that these switches happen randomly and even more unlikely that such switches and complex code sequencing evolved for the sake of evolving. It looks more like a well designed system to create whatever one wanted to create similar to how we write computer software with 0's and 1's.

That's where the common ancestor comes into play....chimps didn't directly evolve into humans we both share a common ancestor.


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22-04-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:32 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 03:30 PM)childeye Wrote:  After some searching on the internet, I found some interesting studies that show the differences in human and chimps are mainly certain switches that turn some genes on and off. How these switches occured is therefore of primary interest when addressing your question. Certainly natural selection could be viable as a hypothesis. But essentially if we flipped the right switches we could turn into chimps. I am more of an intellligent design person. It seems unlikely that these switches happen randomly and even more unlikely that such switches and complex code sequencing evolved for the sake of evolving. It looks more like a well designed system to create whatever one wanted to create similar to how we write computer software with 0's and 1's.

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Are you speaking about yourself? Because I'm not arguing. It is what it is.
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22-04-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:37 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 03:32 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  Argument from personal incredulity. Drinking Beverage
Are you speaking about yourself? Because I'm not arguing. It is what it is.

Don't be childish... You know what I meant.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
It works, bitches.
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22-04-2013, 03:50 PM
RE: the God term
(22-04-2013 03:35 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-04-2013 03:30 PM)childeye Wrote:  After some searching on the internet, I found some interesting studies that show the differences in human and chimps are mainly certain switches that turn some genes on and off. How these switches occured is therefore of primary interest when addressing your question. Certainly natural selection could be viable as a hypothesis. But essentially if we flipped the right switches we could turn into chimps. I am more of an intellligent design person. It seems unlikely that these switches happen randomly and even more unlikely that such switches and complex code sequencing evolved for the sake of evolving. It looks more like a well designed system to create whatever one wanted to create similar to how we write computer software with 0's and 1's.

That's where the common ancestor comes into play....chimps didn't directly evolve into humans we both share a common ancestor.
Yes I know the theory. That doesn't change the fact that DNA are the common code shared by all creatures that instruct how the cells are to be formed and what to form.
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