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03-05-2013, 11:14 PM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:11 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 08:43 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  The best minds will tell you that when a man has begotten a child he is morally bound to tenderly care for it, protect it from hurt, shield it from disease, clothe it, feed it, bear with its waywardness, lay no hand upon it save in kindness and for its own good, and never in any case inflict upon it a wanton cruelty. God's treatment of his earthly children, every day and every night, is the exact opposite of all that, yet those best minds warmly justify these crimes, condone them, excuse them, and indignantly refuse to regard them as crimes at all, when he commits them.
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Hypocritical thinking. Whoever wrote this gives credit to men for everything good and blames God for everything bad. When what we see as the corruption of the way things should be, to straight away blame God is a conclusion based on an uninformed premise. If it is the God of scripture this person is blaming, he should read the part where God said these things would happen if we ate of the ffruit of knowledge of good and evil. Do these best minds understand that to know good and evil is to experience good and evil?

God doesn't exist.

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03-05-2013, 11:18 PM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:03 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 10:33 PM)childeye Wrote:  Then you are proposing that God is the product of evolution? That superstition is the product of evolution? Then the suffering we see is the product of evolution? Politics are the product of evolution? We are decimating the earth with pollution and poverty. Wars over resources are evolution? Greed and genocide are the products of evolution? Self destruction is the product of evolution? Respectfully, I don't think you have thought this through.

No the urge to co-operate with others in our species was shaped by evolution.
Then why do we see wars and greed and the fight for power? To co-operate men have to agree and believe in the same cause. There must be one Truth that can live in every man without dissent. Not many truths competing to prove they are the one's who should be in charge.
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03-05-2013, 11:19 PM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:14 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 11:11 PM)childeye Wrote:  Hypocritical thinking. Whoever wrote this gives credit to men for everything good and blames God for everything bad. When what we see as the corruption of the way things should be, to straight away blame God is a conclusion based on an uninformed premise. If it is the God of scripture this person is blaming, he should read the part where God said these things would happen if we ate of the ffruit of knowledge of good and evil. Do these best minds understand that to know good and evil is to experience good and evil?

God doesn't exist.
Then your statement of God not taking care of his earthly children is without merit.
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03-05-2013, 11:21 PM
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Good night everyone. Thank you for your time and the mind excercise.
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03-05-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:18 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 11:03 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  No the urge to co-operate with others in our species was shaped by evolution.
Then why do we see wars and greed and the fight for power? To co-operate men have to agree and believe in the same cause. There must be one Truth that can live in every man without dissent. Not many truths competing to prove they are the one's who should be in charge.

Hahahaha Sure...

You should buy a history book some day.

wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

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03-05-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:18 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 11:03 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  No the urge to co-operate with others in our species was shaped by evolution.
Then why do we see wars and greed and the fight for power? To co-operate men have to agree and believe in the same cause. There must be one Truth that can live in every man without dissent. Not many truths competing to prove they are the one's who should be in charge.

Because along side co-operation is greed.
ie: I'll co-operate with you to kill this guy as to better our standing.

This guy has 2, I have 2, you have 2. We could all co-operate and and have two, or me and you could team up and kill him and take his 2 and have 3 each.

childeye: "But then why isn't there only 1 person left standing"

Because if we both have 3 and we attack eachother we are even and so would kill eachother. aka, it's worth more to co-operate then to attack each other.

That's how the world operates on a very basic scale. No God required.

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04-05-2013, 12:10 AM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:22 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Because along side co-operation is greed.
ie: I'll co-operate with you to kill this guy as to better our standing.

This guy has 2, I have 2, you have 2. We could all co-operate and and have two, or me and you could team up and kill him and take his 2 and have 3 each.

childeye: "But then why isn't there only 1 person left standing"

Because if we both have 3 and we attack each other we are even and so would kill each other. aka, it's worth more to co-operate then to attack each other.

That's how the world operates on a very basic scale. No God required.

That's actually pretty fucking brilliant MuffinHead.

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04-05-2013, 12:35 AM
RE: the God term
(03-05-2013 11:19 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(03-05-2013 11:14 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  God doesn't exist.
Then your statement of God not taking care of his earthly children is without merit.

No.

What's really going on in the world is people helping each other.

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04-05-2013, 05:45 AM
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(04-05-2013 12:10 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  That's actually pretty fucking brilliant MuffinHead.

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04-05-2013, 02:01 PM
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Where did our theist go?

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