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26-02-2014, 11:07 PM
the rise of the radical religious right and the breakdown of democracy in the US
I was doing some research on the topic of Religion in Politics. Particularly regarding what I have seen over the last couple of decades in the radical religious takeover of the Republican Party in the US.

I stumbled across this piece written in 2003. I must say this is the most concise, right on the money piece I have read regarding the radical religious takeover of the republican party and the agenda and beliefs behind it all. 13 years after it was written we are living in the throws of exactly what the article describes as the "Agenda and Beliefs" of the Radical Religious Right.

I listen the the podcast weekly and I felt the need to share with anyone on the forums that may be interested.

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

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26-02-2014, 11:57 PM
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Nice piece. I hope that the trends seem to be proving him wrong after all these years, that hardline christian control is going away. I know it's quite prevalent in the political media these days, but you can see the extremism being pushed back by more rational thinking as the years go by.

The recent pushes for discriminatory legislature for businesses towards gay marriage are a testament to that, even in places where one would expect this sort of bigotry to hold fast. We see the people rejecting it in favor of tolerance and acceptance. This piece is 11 yrs. old, and a decade ago he was right in his analysis. I see that somewhere we turned a corner and headed in a better direction, at least I hope so.

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27-02-2014, 12:58 AM
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Well, the fanatical religious right took over the GOP in the 80s, and have tried to out-conservative themselves every year since. It's all true. They really do want theocracy in the US, and have succeeded in convincing about 25% of the population that this is a good idea. It doesn't help that the left has also become more and more radicalized in that same time period. It leaves voters in the position of having to choose between an all powerful government with high taxes, or one that is just big enough to fit in your pants.

It feels like there is no moderate position anymore, and anyone who isn't a communist or a fascist is marginalized.

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27-02-2014, 01:45 PM
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(27-02-2014 12:58 AM)toadaly Wrote:  It feels like there is no moderate position anymore, and anyone who isn't a communist or a fascist is marginalized.

I'm assuming this is hyperbole, but the Democratic party is no where near communist. Hell, most of Europe would consider them to be a moderate party, at best.
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27-02-2014, 01:51 PM
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(27-02-2014 01:45 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(27-02-2014 12:58 AM)toadaly Wrote:  It feels like there is no moderate position anymore, and anyone who isn't a communist or a fascist is marginalized.

I'm assuming this is hyperbole, but the Democratic party is no where near communist. Hell, most of Europe would consider them to be a moderate party, at best.

Actually the Dems are Center Right in most of the world. America has no Progressive Liberal party.

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28-02-2014, 07:42 PM
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(26-02-2014 11:57 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  Nice piece. I hope that the trends seem to be proving him wrong after all these years, that hardline christian control is going away. I know it's quite prevalent in the political media these days, but you can see the extremism being pushed back by more rational thinking as the years go by.

The recent pushes for discriminatory legislature for businesses towards gay marriage are a testament to that, even in places where one would expect this sort of bigotry to hold fast. We see the people rejecting it in favor of tolerance and acceptance. This piece is 11 yrs. old, and a decade ago he was right in his analysis. I see that somewhere we turned a corner and headed in a better direction, at least I hope so.

It only takes one imbecile with a proper grasp of English and a way with words to recapture the unthinking majority's hearts.
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01-03-2014, 10:46 PM
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(27-02-2014 01:51 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  America has no Progressive Liberal party.

They do. They just call it Bernie Sanders and Alan Grayson is all. Tongue

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01-03-2014, 10:56 PM
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(28-02-2014 07:42 PM)UndercoverAtheist Wrote:  
(26-02-2014 11:57 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  Nice piece. I hope that the trends seem to be proving him wrong after all these years, that hardline christian control is going away. I know it's quite prevalent in the political media these days, but you can see the extremism being pushed back by more rational thinking as the years go by.

The recent pushes for discriminatory legislature for businesses towards gay marriage are a testament to that, even in places where one would expect this sort of bigotry to hold fast. We see the people rejecting it in favor of tolerance and acceptance. This piece is 11 yrs. old, and a decade ago he was right in his analysis. I see that somewhere we turned a corner and headed in a better direction, at least I hope so.

It only takes one imbecile with a proper grasp of English and a way with words to recapture the unthinking majority's hearts.

True. But what I was saying is that the trend seems to be towards more people thinking. There will always be loud unthinking imbeciles and a thousand that will listen to them. But as long as there is a bigger trend toward reason, I'm optimistic.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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01-03-2014, 11:35 PM
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(01-03-2014 10:56 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  True. But what I was saying is that the trend seems to be towards more people thinking. There will always be loud unthinking imbeciles and a thousand that will listen to them. But as long as there is a bigger trend toward reason, I'm optimistic.

You hold more hope than I do. Maybe I'm just older and more jaded, but it appears to me that the masses are perpetually getting more and more stupid and less critical at an alarming rate. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see witch trials again 100 years from now.

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02-03-2014, 08:59 AM
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(01-03-2014 11:35 PM)toadaly Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 10:56 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  True. But what I was saying is that the trend seems to be towards more people thinking. There will always be loud unthinking imbeciles and a thousand that will listen to them. But as long as there is a bigger trend toward reason, I'm optimistic.

You hold more hope than I do. Maybe I'm just older and more jaded, but it appears to me that the masses are perpetually getting more and more stupid and less critical at an alarming rate. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see witch trials again 100 years from now.

Says every older generation ever. Tongue

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