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23-05-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
"Before the Big Bang" is not understood much at all. The idea is flawed, like a room where everything is up. Time really wasn't until expansion began. So, whatever your friend thinks s/he can infer about that is likely just imagination and projection.
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23-05-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
I'd just stop talking to him.


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23-05-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
I asked him for evidence for his claim, this is what I got .
"Adaptation is the evolutionary process whereby an organism becomes better able to live in its habitat or habitats." Theodosius Dobzhansky.
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23-05-2016, 08:35 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
(23-05-2016 08:31 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  I asked him for evidence for his claim, this is what I got .
"Adaptation is the evolutionary process whereby an organism becomes better able to live in its habitat or habitats." Theodosius Dobzhansky.

Don't see how to argue against that.

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23-05-2016, 08:39 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
(23-05-2016 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 08:31 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  I asked him for evidence for his claim, this is what I got .
"Adaptation is the evolutionary process whereby an organism becomes better able to live in its habitat or habitats." Theodosius Dobzhansky.

Don't see how to argue against that.

I still don't see how this prove energy has intelligence?
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23-05-2016, 08:44 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
So basically a "safe inference" is an assumption based on evidence but only a little bit, and basically only something you just want to be true.

I don't know what the law of thermodynamics about the conservation of energy has to do with a God belief if that is what this person you're debating is trying to talk about. If they mean to say the energy that created us was God than we can also say it was simply the energy that the universe has always had and it always existed, no need for an intelligent creator.

Evolutionary biologists don't just infer that we are evolved, we have the fossil record, genetic testing, carbon dating, etc. to strongly infer and actually prove that evolution is a fact. The energy of the universe that created us can't be proven to be intelligent in any safely measurable way so it's not a safe inference, it's a blind assumption based on a lack of evidence.

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23-05-2016, 08:48 PM (This post was last modified: 23-05-2016 09:09 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
(23-05-2016 08:39 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Don't see how to argue against that.

I still don't see how this prove energy has intelligence?

It doesn't. It has nothing to do with any of that woo. A common technique is to try to use facts to try and seduce me to accept their absurd metaphysics. For a couple thousand dollars and shit. Not gonna happen. I just send them this. It's even better because Isaac is a Scientologist. He needs to suck on my chocolate salty balls. Just put 'em in your mouth and suck 'em.




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23-05-2016, 08:48 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
(23-05-2016 08:39 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Don't see how to argue against that.

I still don't see how this prove energy has intelligence?

It's imaginary energy in imaginary time plucked out of his imagination.

Or plucked out of his arse.

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23-05-2016, 08:54 PM
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So... after all this confuzzled talk about the big bang and natural selection, which have less to do with each other than starfish and actual stars, your head is supposed to spin enough that when s/he says "therefore it's god/energy/spirit/love, don't you see how simple that is?" you look dazed and nod. And don't ask questions because the merry-go-round will start again.

Is your friend Deepak Chopra?
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23-05-2016, 09:03 PM
RE: what does safe inference have to with intelligence?
(23-05-2016 08:39 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Don't see how to argue against that.

I still don't see how this prove energy has intelligence?

It doesn't. It is random ramblings from a disordered mind.

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