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29-05-2016, 09:59 AM
www.jesus-is-savior.com
Anyone ever heard of the website http://www.jesus-is-savior.com? It's a really bizarre website! Apparently according to it, there's no such thing as Atheists

Quote: [i][i]The Bible is penned in black on white paper, for the world to read. Please take a look around you, the next time that you visit your local grocery store, as you fill your cart with blessing after blessing from God. We breath God's clean air (unless men have polluted it). We drink God's pure water (unless men have polluted it). God is a good God. We enjoy the blessing of health from God. If God remains faithful to reach out to us, we can never blame him in eternity for refusing Him. 2nd Timothy 2:13, “If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” God is right in everything that He does!!!

I believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, do you? According to 1st Corinthians 15:1-4, the “Gospel” constitutes three elements: Christ DIED on the cross for our sins, He was BURIED, and then He miraculously bodily RESURRECTED three days later. It is so simple to be saved, JUST BELIEVE THE GOOD NEWS. That's how you receive the gift of eternal life. Just believe the Gospel, make it your only hope for Heaven.

We read in Galatians 3:2, “This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” The apostle Paul wrote a letter to the church at Galatia. Paul only wanted to know ONE THING... HOW DID YOU GET THE INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT? THAT IS TO SAY, HOW DID YOU GET SAVED? Was it by doing the works of the law (i.e., the Ten Commandments). Or did you simply hear the Gospel preached and gladly receive it? If you believe (trust) the Gospel, you are saved!!! Salvation is that simple!!! It is a free gift (Romans 5:15, 18; Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8-10).

Tragically, Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek TV series creator) died in his sins without Christ). Also, Leonard Nimoy (“Spock”) died in his strange female goddess religion without Christ. Legendary singer, England Dan, died in his satanic Baha'i Faith and went to Hell. David Bowie asked for a Buddhist funeral. Steve Jobs of Apple Computers was a devour Buddhist. They are being tormented in Hell right now, and forever! I could name hundreds of famous actors, singers and celebrities who either deny God's existence or reject Jesus Christ as their Savior. Either way, they're damned under the curse of God's law (Galatians 3:10). I do not rejoice that anyone goes to Hell, and neither does God (Ezekiel 33:10; 2nd Peter 3:9). The choice is yours alone to make. Wicked people may unite hand-in-hand, even nation-with-nation, against God, but when we all die, we die alone. We are judged alone (Romans 14:10-12; James 4:12; Ecclesiastes 12:14). Judgment Day is coming! (Hebrews 9:27; Hebrews 4:13 - All Scripture references are ONLY to the trustworthy King James Bible).

Here are some more arrogant statements exclaimed against God almighty by foolish atheists:

“By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none.” —Actor, Charlie Chaplin

“I gradually, decided that just because I didn't have or couldn't find the ultimate answer didn't mean I was going to buy the religious fairytale. As an atheist you have to rationalize things.” —Singer, Billy Joel

“I have NEVER seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious theories of Heaven and Hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God.” —Inventor, Thomas Edison

“My belief system is that when this is over, you don't look down from Heaven and wait for your loved ones to join you... your molecules continue and in due time become something else.” —Actor, William Shatner

It was Helen Keller who blasphemed God's Word by stating:

"There is so much in the bible against which every instinct of my being rebels, so much so that I regret the necessity which has compelled me to read it through from beginning to end. I do not think that the knowledge I have gained of its history and sources compensates me for the unpleasant details it has forced upon my attention."

Not coincidentally, the “I love you” hand sign which Ms. Keller allegedly developed is also used in satanic rituals and by Rock-n-Roll idolaters. In fact, satanist Anton LaVey has a picture of Keller's hand sign (with the thumb extended) in the 1969 Satanic Bible. The link I just provided takes you to an actual photo from The Satanic Bible. The argument about the extended thumb not being a satanic hand sign is simply not true.
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Here's another:

Quote: Truly, April Fool's Day is a fitting holiday for all the Communistic, Rock-n-Rolling, Satanic, immoral, child-murdering, feminist, ATHEISTS in the world. There's not a bigger bunch of fools on the planet.

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools ...

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.” —Romans 1:20-22 and Ephesians 4:18-19

When the truth is revealed, there's no such thing as an atheist. There are only ingrates who refuse to acknowledge the goodness and omnipotent power of God. Romans 1:20 confirms that there is no such thing as an atheist. All the proof anyone needs of God is found right outside your front door, which is why on Judgment Day all professed atheists will be without excuse. I assure you that there are no atheists in Hell.

Do you know where most atheists are from? They come out of heathen State universities. Most young people profess to be homosexuals in a heathen university, which is where they are indoctrinated with that garbage. Most people decide to become atheist in some heathen school. Colossians 2:4 and 18, “And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. ... Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.” The Scriptures warn about taking unsound advice from unsaved people...

... Atheists are a bunch of smart-alecky naysayers who relentlessly place God on trial. They totally reject the Holy Bible, which by it's very existence proves it's divine Author. Approximately 40 writers, who spanned 1,500 years, who lived in different nations, and spoke different languages, were used as pens by one Author (God) to write 66 manuscripts which all meld together into one perfectly harmonizing book. The Bible contains 31% prophecy! The Quran has none!

Kelly mentions ceremonial laws, attempting to use them to disregard God's moral laws. She calls Ray Comfort's beliefs on Creation “obsolete”! Sadly, as Kelly spews her adultish unbelief, you can hear innocent impressionable children laughing at God in the background. Kindly, I wouldn't want to be in Kelly's and Brian's shoes on Judgment Day for corrupting children! Matthew 18:6, “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” God has given us all that we need to PROVE that He exists. Folks, I've been a born-again Christian for over 35 years, and I see God everywhere I look. Open your door and look at nature! Psalms 19:1-3 teaches that the heavens declares the glory (goodness) of God. That means, EVERY STAR IS A SERMON!!!

Can I prove to you that God exists? Honestly, only a wicked person would dare even ask such a foolish question. All my life I have been amazed as I have gazed into the nighttime sky at the stars. I marvel when I look under a microscope. I stand in awe when I look at animals at a zoo. God is incredible!!! There absolutely no way that Evolution can do any of this!

Furthermore, even if I had difficulty struggling with the existence of God (which I never have since childhood), I would be highly suspicious of atheist Evolutionists, astronomers and scientists who make bizarre fairytale claims. For example: NASA's astronomers and National Geographic magazine, strangely claim that our earth and moon formed over billions of years from a cataclysmic crash between two planetary bodies. Brian tells Mr. Cameron to “think,” which if any normal thinking person did, they would have to laugh and conclude that NASA are out of their minds. The round earth and moon, which rotate around each other, did NOT evolve from two asteroids smashing into each other!!! Talk about BAD SCIENCE!!! Now here's what the holy Scriptures teach, Psalm 8:3, “When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained.”

Intentionally bad science is “proof” that atheists are desperate to lie, cheat and maliciously indoctrinate children with bullcrap!!! In sharp contrast, as Christians, we don't have to fabricate lies and false science to indoctrinate youth with our agendas. Evolution is a cruel hoax, a massive proven fraud, not legitimate science!!!

I'll tell you another “proof” of God. Although there are many phony Christians, and ungodly preachers (and the Bible condemns them all - 2nd Peter 2:1-3), it is God-fearing people who are the most kindest, forgiving and generous people on earth. Who are the murderous Communists? That's right, they are atheists. Who are the mass-murderers? That's right, they are atheists. Although Adolf Hitler claimed to be a Christian, he clearly was not. Hitler was associated with the satanic Roman Catholic religion, as well as the occult. Remember, the Bible warns that Satan and his ministers are actors, falsely appearing as righteous ministers and Christ Himself (2nd Corinthians 11:13-15; Matthew 7:15). God is a holy God and wherever you find good in this world you'll find God. Granted, many people have been murdered in the name of religion, but that just evidences the spiritual war that exists between Satan and God.

Here's another “proof.” History only records the civilization of mankind going back to the Egyptian Empire around 1,500 BC. There are no civilizations recorded prior to Egypt, because the Biblical flood of Noah's day wiped everything out! If, as evolutionists claim, mankind evolved over millions of years, then man's history ought to go back hundreds-of-thousands of years. The fact that the historical records only go back to Egypt supports the Bible's dating of Creation at 4,004 BC. History supports the Bible's claim of a young human race, but evolution does not make any sense in view of mankind's very short history.

I could give you thousands of “proofs,” but it will make no difference if you refuse to listen to Moses, the prophets, the apostles, and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. The rich man and Lazarus, a poor man, both died. Two angels escorted Lazarus to Heaven. The rich man awoke in Hell. The rich man was in torments, suffering in flames of fire, with unquenchable thirst. Jesus never called this account a parable, so we must accept it as factual. The Lord used literal names, like Abraham and Lazarus, and Moses, which He never did when speaking a parable. The rich man begged for a single drop of water, but was denied. He begs Abraham to send Lazarus from the dead to warn his five brothers, lest they burn in Hell too. But the Lord said to the rich man in Luke 16:31, “And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.” That rich man became the poorest man in the world when he died.

Here's some of his "irrefutable proof" that evolution is a hoax:

Quote: Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions.

There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power.

It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-power, and there is one more to come. The 7th world-power will be the beast system, the kingdom of the antichrist. This diabolical New World Order is quickly forming now (i.e., a universal religious view, global centralized government, a one-world economic system, a cashless society, etc.).

Do you think it's a mere coincidence that the Word of God is so concise on world history? The Bible records the beginning of mankind at about 4,000 B.C., and secular history is eerily silent before 4,000 B.C. for those who claim to believe in evolution. If I were an evolutionist, I would be extremely disturbed by this FACT. Prove me wrong! I dare you. I triple-dog dare you to show me any recorded civilization before 4,000 B.C. And I don't mean some pottery jug or item that you claim is 14,000 years old--Show me any evidence of civilization prior to 4,000 B.C. You cannot. In fact, it is difficult to find much recorded history before 2,500 B.C., because the flood of Noah's day destroyed most of it.

How can evolutionists be so naive and foolish as to totally ignore this incredibly obvious fact? There is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C., no writings, no carved stones, no battles, no wars, no countries, no nothing! It's as if mankind just suddenly began (which is exactly what the Bible teaches happened). God created man out of the dirt, the elements, of the earth.

There were no humans before approximately 4,000 B.C. Hard to imagine? Why should it be? There is no history to indicate that humans existed prior to 4,000 B.C. The history of mankind should be traceable far beyond 4,000 B.C., going back million of years IF the evolution of mankind were true. Some scholars believe that the earth itself evolved, but not mankind. This is distinctly different than Theistic Evolution, where it is believed that God created everything and then let it evolve. There are many theories, but all are mere speculation.

What we DO know, if you believe the Bible, is that the universe as we know it today was created in 6 days 6,000 years ago. If it is true that the earth existed prior to that time (and I personally believe that it did), then everything was destroyed prior to Genesis. There was no dry ground anymore. There was no form of light anymore. All of these things were created in Genesis Chapter one. There is nothing in Genesis that says God created the earth itself 6,000 years ago. I'm not saying He didn't; but there is the possibility of a Gap Theory between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

Those who attempt to make this issue a matter of saving faith are foolish and belligerent. Regardless of your beliefs on Creation, it has absolutely nothing to do with your salvation, which is completely dependent upon one's faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Who came into the world to save men from their sins (John 20:31). Eternal life is a free gift (Romans 6:23), paid for in full by Jesus' precious blood (1st Peter 1:18-19).


Why 7,000 Languages?

If, as evolutionists claim, all of mankind evolved from the SAME primitive life-source, then how did we end up with 7,000 different languages? The Bible teaches that God created all the different languages at Babel... "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech ... Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth" (Genesis 11:7,9). It is far more reasonable to accept the Biblical claim that God created all of mankind's different languages; than it is to believe that some space-dust from a massive chaotic explosion somehow became life, and then took on intelligence, and then from the same evolutionary process ended up with 7,000 different languages. That makes no sense at all.

There are no "primitive" languages. All languages have a system of sounds, words, and sentences that can adequately communicate the content of culture. This is evidence of a divine Creator. The languages of the so-called "primitive" peoples are often very complex in their grammatical structures. If mankind had advanced through an evolutionary process, then there should still be developing languages today; but in fact, one languages disappears every 2-weeks...

Researchers say a language disappears every two weeks

LOS ANGELES TIMES
By Thomas H. Maugh II | September 19, 2007 in print edition A-18
One of the world’s 7,000 distinct languages disappears every 14 days, an extinction rate exceeding that of birds, mammals or plants, researchers said Tuesday.

At least 20% of the world’s languages are in imminent danger of becoming extinct as their last speakers die off, compared with about 18% of mammals, 8% of plants and 5% of birds.

The extinction of a language translates into a loss of knowledge, said K. David Harrison, associate director of the Living Tongues Institute for Endangered Languages and a linguist at Swarthmore College.

“When we lose a language, we lose centuries of thinking about time, seasons, sea creatures, reindeer, edible flowers, mathematics, landscapes, myths, music, the unknown and the everyday,” he said.

Half of the world’s languages have disappeared in the last 500 years, and half of the remainder are likely to vanish during this century, Harrison said.

Many of the languages are not easily translated into English. In the endangered south Siberian language Todzhu, for example, the word “chary” means “2-year-old male castrated reindeer that can be used for riding.”

Harrison and Living Tongues Director Gregory D.S. Anderson have identified five language “hot spots” where the extinction rate is particularly high, they said at a news conference sponsored by the National Geographic Society, which supports their research.

One such area encompasses Oklahoma, Texas and New Mexico, where 40 languages spoken by Native Americans are at risk. Only five elderly members of the Yuchi tribe, for example, are fluent in the Yuchi language, which may be unrelated to any other language in the world.

The top hot spot is northern Australia, where 153 languages spoken by Aborigines are at risk. There are currently only three known speakers of Magati Ke in the Northern Territory and three Yawuru speakers. The team found one elderly speaker of Amurdag – which had previously been declared extinct – and he could barely recall the language spoken by his father.

Other hot spots include central South America, parts of the Pacific Northwest and eastern Siberia. All the areas are similar in that they were colonized with indigenous languages giving way to a colonial language either voluntarily or through coercion. A map of the hot spots is at http://www.languagehotspots.org.

The Native American languages in Oklahoma are giving way to English, Anderson said. That process has already taken place on the East Coast, which was colonized earlier. Virtually all indigenous languages have disappeared there.

Researchers from the Living Tongues Institute are visiting these locales and using digital audio and video equipment to record the last speakers of the most endangered tongues. “In many cases, these are the first and only digital recordings of the languages,” Anderson said.

In as few as seven to 10 days, they can record enough information to prevent the complete loss of a language, he said.

SOURCE: Researchers say a language disappears every two weeks - Los Angeles Times

The fact that mankind's languages are vanishing from civilization at any alarming rate is proof that evolution is a lie. If evolution were true, then the process by which mankind has obtained 7,000 languages would be continuing today. Has the evolutionary process ceased? According to the Bible it never happened in the first place. One would have to be a fool to follow the nonsense of evolution. It's amazing to me how people continually place God and the Bible on trial; yet unquestioningly accept the theories of evolution. This just shows their wicked heart of unbelief in the Word of God.


Something Else to Consider

IF, as evolutionists claim, the earth is billions of years old, and mankind has evolved from a lower and simpler form of life, then why has mankind gone from writing upon stones to laser printers in just the past 3,500 years? When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, they were written upon stone. It is abundantly clear that the Egyptians carved messages into stone (hieroglyphics). So why is it that mankind has only discovered better inventions in the past few thousand years? If mankind had evolved, as evolutionists claim, then why didn't man discover ink a million years ago? Think about it. This is an astonishing thought--There were NO planes, cars, computers, refrigerators, electricity, lights, gas, powered-equipment, telephones, recording devices, CD players, MP3 players, electric razors, televisions, record players, movie cameras, or a million other modern technological inventions--just a mere 170 years ago. Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?

Look at the ignorance of doctors over the past few centuries. Sanitary practices, such as washing hands, were laughed at by doctors, while thousands of patients continued to die. It was unimaginable to doctors back then, that washing one's hands somehow was related to a patient's health in the operating room. Can you believe that? Evolutionists today are just as ignorant of the truth of God's Word, and of common sense itself. It's hard to imagine that millions of people were dying from a simple lack of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) just a couple hundred years ago. If evolution is true, then it took man billions of years to learn all these kindergarten lessons. And ironically, man has only learned these lessons in the past couple hundred years. You've got to be kidding me! Don't tell me that it took mankind BILLIONS of years to learn to wash his hands to prevent disease! The truth is that mankind has taken baby-steps since 4,000 B.C., and it did take him nearly 6,000 years to learn to wash his hands. This is just another undeniable PROOF that evolution is a lie. If mankind had evolved over millions of years, then men would have discovered these inventions a very long time ago.

The truth is that evolutionists are hardhearted against the truth of God's Word. The Word of God declares that God created the world at approximately 4,000 B.C.—YOU'D BE A FOOL NOT TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO HISTORY PRIOR TO 4,000 B.C. As incredible as this fact is, it is undeniable proof against evolution.
SOURCE: http://jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution%20Hoax/4000.htm

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29-05-2016, 10:15 AM
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(29-05-2016 09:59 AM)SkepticalDaniel Wrote:  Anyone ever heard of the website http://www.jesus-is-savior.com? It's a really bizarre website! Apparently according to it, there's no such thing as Atheists

It's a common enough claim. "There aren't any true atheists, just poor, misguided Christians who have lost their way, yap, yap yap..." Denying our existence is just one of the many bizarre ways that fundamentalists deal with atheists in their skewed world view. That site was just a bit more extreme than usual.

Pro Tip: You don't need to paste-N-post vast quantities of crazy. Nobody's going to read it. Small doses of crazy are just as convincing. Thumbsup

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29-05-2016, 10:46 AM
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Of course there are no atheists...atheists are the things of their nightmares. Atheists are imaginary; they don't exist.

In fact, none of us are even here. Evil_monster

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29-05-2016, 11:12 AM
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TL;DR

Sadly christians see themselves as being worthless and in need of saving.

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29-05-2016, 11:14 AM
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Oh man. I've heard of this website. It's total rubbish. Very unorganized as well. The homepage is extremely cluttered.

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29-05-2016, 11:17 AM
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Do they have a comment section? If they do we should all descend on the site and say all kinds of atheist stuff. Laugh out load

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29-05-2016, 11:24 AM
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My preacher would say that atheists aren't real. Because of the whole saying about God being branded on you or some shit.
But my preachers cousin is a complete athiest. Started out in school as an apologetic. After years of studying he decided it was all crap and could no longer continue.
Thankfully the cousin worked at my job with me and helped ease me into athiesim.
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29-05-2016, 11:28 AM
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(29-05-2016 11:14 AM)CosmicRaven Wrote:  Oh man. I've heard of this website. It's total rubbish. Very unorganized as well. The homepage is extremely cluttered.

Cluttered is putting it lightly!
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(29-05-2016 11:24 AM)Jewelarcher Wrote:  My preacher would say that atheists aren't real. Because of the whole saying about God being branded on you or some shit.
But my preachers cousin is a complete athiest. Started out in school as an apologetic. After years of studying he decided it was all crap and could no longer continue.
Thankfully the cousin worked at my job with me and helped ease me into athiesim.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com is actually one of the pivotal reasons for my de-conversion.
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29-05-2016, 11:49 AM
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Okay, I clicked on the link and scrolled down a bit. My first thought was that this looked like a site for 'sold on TV' crap.

I don't think I have seen a site that unappealing at first glance in ten years.

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